The Go-To Podcast for Business Leaders, Managers, and Teams seeking to transform Business Chaos and Dysfunction Into Scalable Systems

The Scale The Chaos podcast is where we talk ALL things contributing to your business's chaos and dysfunction. 

It's not JUST your broken processes!

Business Leaders/Owners/Entrepreneurs:

Join Rhonda Lea as she sits down and talks all things chaos with leading industry experts and gets answers to the burning questions all business leaders have. 

And most importantly....what can I do about it?

Each guest expert shares action items you can implement TODAY to help scale your organization's chaos!

Episode Index

Where To Find Our Podcasts

PODCAST GUESTS

Episodes 1 & 2: Boundaries with Sheryl Green

Workplace Boundaries Expert & Author of 'You Had Me At No' 

Find Sheryl at www.SherylGreenSpeaks.com

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Sheryl Green, the "How to Say No" Expert, joins us to discuss how setting boundaries can reduce organizational chaos. A former "Olympic-level people-pleaser," Sheryl discovered the importance of boundaries after burning out from overcommitment. With a Master's in Forensic Psychology, she now helps individuals and organizations establish healthy boundaries to improve relationships and well-being. Sheryl's book, "You Had Me at 'No,'" offers practical tools like the Goldilocks Principle and the Clash Question to make better decisions and communicate boundaries effectively. Her insights will help our listeners create healthier, more productive work environments by addressing the often-overlooked issue of boundary-setting in the workplace.

Episode 1: How to Set Boundaries and Overcome Burnout with Sheryl Green Part 1| Scale The Chaos Podcast

In this episode, Rhonda Lea welcomes Sheryl Green, a "how to say no" expert, to discuss the importance of setting digital boundaries in an increasingly connected world. Together, they explore common challenges around maintaining work-life balance, identifying violations of personal space, and practical strategies for saying no with confidence.

Episode 2: Mastering Digital Boundaries in the Workplace with Sheryl Green Part 2 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In the continuation of Rhonda’s conversation with Sheryl Green, they dive deeper into setting and maintaining boundaries with clients, colleagues, and even friends. Sheryl shares her top tips for communicating boundaries effectively, empowering listeners to prioritize mental well-being and create a healthier workplace dynamic.

Episodes 3 & 4: Rudeness and Incivility with Dr. John O'Brien

Workplace Incivility & Rudeness Expert and Author of 'Rudeness Rehab'

Find John at www.rudenessrehab.com

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John O'Brien, PhD, joins us to explore how workplace incivility contributes to organizational chaos and dysfunction. With over 30 years of experience as a licensed psychologist, John specializes in guiding individuals through life transitions. His upcoming book, "Rudeness Rehab," addresses the often-overlooked impact of subtle negative behaviors on our well-being. As an ICF ACC Certified Coach and Certified Health and Wellness Coach, John brings unique insights on using mental health approaches to handle rude situations. His expertise spans grief, trauma, and addiction, offering valuable strategies for reducing stress and fostering positive workplace transformations. John's perspective will help our listeners address the roots of organizational dysfunction.

Episode 3: Tackling Rudeness and Incivility in the Workplace with Dr. John O'Brien Part 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In this episode, Rhonda Lea sits down with Dr. John O’Brien, an incivility expert and author of "Rudeness Rehab," to explore the subtle yet powerful impacts of workplace rudeness and incivility. Dr. O'Brien shares his personal journey and professional insights into how even minor incivilities can erode organizational culture and productivity, offering practical advice for fostering a more respectful, engaged workplace.

Episode 4: The Hidden Costs of Workplace Incivility with Dr. John O’Brien Pt. 2| Scale The Chaos Podcast

Continuing the conversation, Rhonda Lea and Dr. John O'Brien dive deeper into the hidden costs of workplace incivility, from productivity losses to employee turnover. Dr. O'Brien offers actionable strategies for leaders and employees alike to build a culture of civility and respect, ultimately transforming team dynamics and enhancing overall organizational performance.

Episodes 5 & 6: Humor with Chris McGuire

Humor & Story Telling Expert | Executive Producer | Head Writer

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Chris McGuire joins us to explore how humor and storytelling can transform workplace dysfunction into positive organizational culture. With over 20 years of experience working with top Hollywood talent, Chris brings unique insights from his role as head writer for Comedy Central Roasts and Executive Producer of Emmy-nominated shows. A veteran show runner who has collaborated with stars like Martha Stewart, Snoop Dogg, and George Lopez, Chris now helps corporate leaders harness the power of humor and storytelling to engage audiences more effectively. His expertise in managing creative teams and developing compelling content offers fresh perspectives on reducing workplace chaos.

Epsiode 5: Boosting Workplace Engagement and Creativity through Humor with Chris McGuire Pt 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In this episode, Rhonda Lea chats with humor and storytelling expert Chris McGuire about the power of humor in the workplace. Chris shares insights from his career in comedy and television to explain how levity can boost employee engagement, productivity, and team cohesion, even in the most serious of professional settings.

Episode 6: Using Humor to Spark Creativity & Drive Innovation With Chris McGuire Part 2 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Rhonda Lea continues her conversation with Chris McGuire, diving into practical strategies for using humor to stimulate creativity and innovation. Chris offers tips for bringing levity to meetings, fostering a fun culture, and unlocking creative potential—all while staying professional and productive.

Episodes 7 & 8: Gen Z Leadership with Dale Wetmore

Gen Z Leadership Expert & Speaker

Find Dale at www.giftofnextgen.com

Connect with Dale on LinkedIn.

Gen Z leadership expert Dale Wetmore says business leaders often find it challenging to manage young people. According to the research, young workers show up unmotivated and entitled – if they show up at all. Yet Dale believes the next generation entering the workforce carries more promise than peril. As president of the firm Gift of the Next Generation, Dale works with businesses to help them connect with, inspire, and lead their young employees to success.

 

Dale’s insights are derived from hundreds of studies and articles about motivating young people, as well as 20+ years of leadership experience he gained at both small technology startups and tech super giants like Microsoft and Amazon Web Services.   

 

Dale is the author of the upcoming book Leading Gen Z: the Gift of the Next Generation

Episode 7: Understanding & Leading Gen Z in the Workplace w/ Dale Wetmore Pt 1 | Scale the Chaos Podcast

In Part 1 of this conversation, Gen Z leadership expert Dale Wetmore joins Rhonda Lea on the Scale the Chaos podcast to discuss how business leaders can better engage with and understand Gen Z employees. They explore the unique traits and values of Gen Z, including their need for meaningful feedback, coaching, and purpose-driven work environments. Dale shares insights into building trust and leveraging the strengths of this next generation to create a more dynamic and cohesive workplace.

Episode 8: Coaching & Leading Gen Z in the Workplace with Dale Wetmore | Scale the Chaos Podcast

In Part 2, Dale Wetmore and Rhonda Lea dive deeper into practical strategies for leading Gen Z. They focus on effective coaching techniques, the importance of regular 15-minute check-ins, and how to establish a culture that resonates across generations. Dale highlights actionable steps to create a work environment where Gen Z employees feel valued, motivated, and prepared for long-term growth, ensuring a thriving, engaged team.

Episodes 9 & 10: Imposter Syndrome with Maureen Zappala

Imposter Syndrome Expert | Keynote Speaker & Author of 'Pushing Your Envelope'

Find Maureen at www.maureenz.com

Connect with Maureen on LinkedIn.

Order Maureen's book on Amazon.

Maureen Zappala, a former NASA propulsion engineer (aka, "rocket scientist!") and founder of High Altitude Strategies, is an award winning speaker, author and presentation skills coach. She works with high-performers to overcome the secret self-doubt of Impostor Syndrome so they can match their confidence to competence and have more influence. She lived in Cleveland for over 36 years before moving to Las Vegas Nevada in August 2019.

Episode 9: Insights From a Rocket Scientist: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome with Maureen Zappala Pt 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Join Rhonda Lea and Maureen Zappala, former NASA engineer and imposter syndrome expert, as they delve into the causes, symptoms, and misconceptions of imposter syndrome. Maureen shares her personal journey, the surprising prevalence of self-doubt in high achievers, and the impact of imposter syndrome on individual performance and workplace culture. Learn how to recognize imposter syndrome and understand its effects on productivity, creativity, and confidence.

Episode 10: Leaderships Strategies & Insights for Managing Imposter Syndrome in the Workplace with Maureen Zappala Pt 2 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In Part 2, Maureen Zappala returns to discuss actionable strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome and how leaders can foster a supportive environment. Discover Maureen's "Tri C Method" for shifting thought patterns, the connection between imposter syndrome and shame, and why small, intentional steps lead to big transformations. Leaders will learn how to recognize imposter syndrome in their teams and help their people unlock their full potential. A must-listen for anyone seeking to build confidence and resilience in themselves or their team!

Episodes 11 & 12: Gutsy Pivots with Chystina Katz

Business Growth Strategist | Speaker | Trainer | Author


Biz Book:  https://chrystina.profitcoach.app/

Website:  https://chrystina.profitcoach.app/

LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrystina-katz-gutsy/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChrystinaKatzGutsyPivoter

Executive Producer and Host of Gutsy Travels: https://www.gutsytravels.com/

Gutsy Pivot Planner: https://www.chrystinakatz.com/gutsy-pivot-planner

Chrystina Katz is a business coach, speaker, and author who helps entrepreneurs and professionals embrace daily courage to achieve bold business success. With over 30 years of corporate project management experience and a decade of entrepreneurial coaching, she empowers clients to take smart risks, overcome fear, and confidently tackle audacious goals.

 

Her signature philosophy, “Be Gutsy to Go Gutsy,” empowers clients to make courageous daily decisions, building the confidence and momentum needed to seize bold opportunities. Chrystina’s tailored approach meets professionals where they are, offering clear, actionable strategies to scale businesses, navigate transitions, and achieve ambitious milestones.

 

Whether helping businesses grow or guiding leaders through critical turning points, Chrystina’s practical insights and inspiring stories have supported leaders at organizations like UPS, CDC, FINRA, and the VA, as well as numerous entrepreneurs striving for exceptional success.

 

Chrystina believes that extraordinary achievements start with showing up Gutsy every day—making brave choices that lead to transformative opportunities. She challenges her clients and audiences to stop waiting, start daring, and create the lives and businesses they truly desire.

Episode 11: How To Be Gutsy in Business with Chrystina Katz Pt 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Discover what it means to be gutsy in business as Chrystina Katz, a business coach and former corporate leader, joins Rhonda Lea. Learn how strategic risk-taking, embracing fear, and fostering a gutsy culture can drive growth and resolve organizational chaos.

Episode 12: Overcoming Fear and Ego to Foster a Gutsy Business Culture with Chrystina Katz | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In part two, Chrystina Katz dives deeper into overcoming fear and ego in leadership. Explore actionable strategies for fostering a gutsy culture, empowering teams, and addressing challenges that hinder growth and innovation.

Episodes 13 & 14: Pricing Strategies with Mark Stiving, Ph.D.

Pricing Educator and Author


Impact Pricing

Instant Profits

Selling Value

Win, Keep, Grow

Mark Stiving, PhD, is a renowned pricing expert and author with over 25 years of experience helping companies optimize their pricing strategies to capture true value and drive profitability. He has worked with leading organizations, including Cisco, Procter & Gamble, and Splunk, and regularly advises private equity firms and their portfolio companies.

Mark specializes in teaching businesses how to price, package, and sell based on value, equipping them with actionable tools to maximize profits. He is the host of the Impact Pricing podcast and the author of several influential books, including Impact Pricing, Win Keep Grow, and Selling Value.

Known for his engaging speaking style, Mark has been featured at events worldwide and on numerous podcasts. His expertise makes him a trusted voice on the connection between pricing strategy and business success.

Episode 13: Value-Based Pricing: Common Mistakes and Strategies with Mark Stiving Pt 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Join pricing expert Mark Stiving as he discusses the power of value-based pricing, common mistakes businesses make, and how to understand what customers truly value. Learn how context-driven pricing can transform your pricing strategy and maximize profitability.

Episode 14: Mastering Pricing Strategy: Value-Based Insights with Mark Stiving Pt 2 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Mark Stiving dives into the question of pricing ownership within organizations, explaining how collaboration across departments leads to better pricing strategies. Discover how to foster a value-driven culture and avoid chaos when making pricing decisions.

Episode 15: Personality Types & the Power of Connection with Jimmy Lea

Sales and Marketing Strategist

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Episode 15: Unlocking the Secrets of Bird Personalities w/ Jimmy Lea | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Episodes 16 & 17: Leadership Confidence with Lana Kinberg

Confidence Coach

Lana Kinberg is a seasoned Confidence Coach and Speaker who helps organizations break the cycle of chaos caused by low confidence and poor mental fitness. With over three decades of experience in Sales and Leadership roles at Fortune 200 companies, Lana has witnessed firsthand how lack of confidence can create organizational dysfunction—and more importantly, how to fix it.

With over three decades of Fortune 200 experience, she helps leaders and teams develop their "Confidence Quotient (CQ)" to break cycles of dysfunction. Based in Las Vegas, Lana specializes in building the mental fitness and leadership capabilities needed for effective decision-making and team cohesion. Through her SELF framework (Security, Empathy, Luminosity, and Fortitude), she guides organizations in creating environments where confidence and trust can flourish.

Episode 16: Breaking the Chaos Cycle: How Low Confidence Destroys Organizations w/ Lana Kinberg Pt 1 | Scale the Chaos Podcast

In this episode of Scale the Chaos, host Rhonda Lea chats with confidence coach Lana Kinberg about how low confidence and mental fitness contribute to organizational dysfunction. They explore the ripple effects of poor leadership preparation, stress, and indecision, which lead to burnout, high turnover, and reduced productivity. Lana shares actionable insights on fostering confidence and psychological safety to improve collaboration and retain talent. 

Episode 17: Breaking the Chaos Cycle: How Low Confidence Destroys Organizations w/ Lana Kinberg Pt 2 | Scale the Chaos Podcast

In this Scale the Chaos episode, Rhonda Lea and confidence coach Lana Kinberg continue their discussion with strategies to break cycles of workplace chaos caused by low confidence and mental fitness. Lana emphasizes the importance of developing confidence through self-awareness, mindset shifts, and reframing challenges, as well as fostering "will sets" alongside skill sets in organizations.

They highlight the role of energy influences—environmental, social, physical, and emotional—in shaping productivity and suggest actionable steps like regular check-ins, promoting empathy, and embracing differences. The conversation also touches on the challenges of remote work, the importance of intentional leadership, and practical ways to foster resilience and positivity.

Episodes 18 & 19: Psychology of Change with Dr. Kevin Holloway

Clinical Psychologist specializing in PTSD and other anxiety disorders

Dr. Kevin Holloway has been a Clinical Psychologist for 19 years specializing in Post-Traumatic Stress Disorders and other anxiety disorders primarily with military service members and veterans. He is currently an international trainer and consultant in evidence-based psychotherapies for PTSD and other anxiety disorders, and military cultural competence in behavioral health care.  He currently serves as Director of Online Training, Technology, and Telehealth at the Center for Deployment Psychology at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences. He also hosts his own podcast called Practical For Your Practice.

Ep 18: How Human Behavior Affects Business Change w/ Dr. Kevin Holloway Pt1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

In this episode of Scale the Chaos, host Rhonda Lea, a Certified Six Sigma Black Belt, engages in a compelling conversation with her brother, Dr. Kevin Holloway, a clinical psychologist specializing in trauma and stress-related disorders. Drawing from his experience working with military service members and veterans, Dr. Holloway unpacks how human behavior and past experiences influence our reactions to change.

Ep 19: How Adversity Can Drive Personal and Professional Transformation w/  Dr. Kevin Holloway Pt.2

In this follow-up episode of Scale the Chaos, host Rhonda Lea continues her engaging conversation with her brother, Dr. Kevin Holloway, a clinical psychologist specializing in trauma and anxiety disorders. Together, they delve into the psychology of change, exploring how work and identity intertwine and why change can feel deeply personal and even threatening.

The discussion highlights individual personality traits that influence adaptability and offers practical strategies for leaders to foster trust, resilience, and adaptability in their teams. Through a trauma-informed leadership lens, Dr. Holloway shares insights on creating safe and empowering environments where employees can grow, even during times of significant change.

Episode 20: Clearly Defined Roles & Responsibilities with Jennafer Martin

Business Leader and Owner

Jennafer Martin, an experienced organizational leader with over 15 years of success in transforming team dynamics and implementing effective organizational structures. She is a former Editor-In-Chief of the much-loved Creating Keepsakes Magazine, through which she successfully led multiple organizational transformations, merging distinct teams, and developing comprehensive workflow systems that significantly improved operational efficiency. Her expertise in creating clarity through well-defined roles and responsibilities has consistently delivered measurable results in team performance and organizational growth. 

Ep 20 - Unmasking Role Ambiguity: How Clear Roles Drive Success w/ Jennafer Martin | Scale The Chaos

Are unclear roles and responsibilities sabotaging your team’s success? In this episode of Scale the Chaos, host Rhonda Lea sits down with organizational leader Jennafer Martin to tackle a silent but powerful disruptor in business: unclear roles and responsibilities. Drawing from decades of combined experience, Rhonda and Jennafer share eye-opening personal stories and actionable strategies to combat role ambiguity, boost morale, and enhance productivity. Learn how structured frameworks like RACI and Cairo can transform team dynamics, eliminate bottlenecks, and foster trust within your organization. Tune in to discover how defining roles isn't just a management tool—it's a game-changer for business success.

Episodes 21 & 22: Using AI to Scale Smarter with Joe Devon

Tech Entrepreneur | Speaker | Podcaster

Joe Devon is a seasoned tech entrepreneur, public speaker, and advocate for innovation and inclusion. He’s the founder of A11yAudits.com and co-host of Accessibility and Gen. AI, where he explores the intersection of accessibility and cutting-edge technology.

Joe’s career spans everything from contributing to the foundational infrastructure of the Internet to developing secure, scalable voting systems for high-profile shows. But his true passion lies in ensuring that technology is inclusive for everyone. As the co-founder and chair of the Global Accessibility Awareness Day (GAAD) Foundation, Joe is on a mission to help organizations embrace accessibility and modernize their digital products with the power of AI.

Episode 21: How to Use AI to Scale Smarter w/ Joe Devon Pt 1 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Episode 22: How to Use AI to Scale Smarter w/ Joe Devon Pt 2 | Scale The Chaos Podcast

Can AI reduce business chaos and dysfunction and help you scale faster? In this insightful episode of Scale the Chaos, host Rhonda Lea sits down with AI expert and accessibility advocate Joe Devon to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming businesses, boosting efficiency, and reshaping industries. From AI-powered automation to misconceptions about job loss, Joe shares invaluable insights from his years of experience in the AI space.

🔹 How businesses are already using AI—without realizing it

🔹 The truth behind AI fears: Is it really taking over jobs?

🔹 Game-changing AI tools for sales, marketing, and operations

🔹 How AI is improving accessibility and inclusivity

🔹 The competitive advantage of adopting AI NOW

Plus, we dive into AI security risks, ethical concerns, and why organizations must learn how to work alongside AI—before it's too late. If you're a business leader, entrepreneur, or AI skeptic, this episode is packed with must-know strategies for leveraging AI to stay ahead of the curve.

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